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Putin will be ‘ruthless,’ Gen. Tata warns


UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY INTRODUCING MARSHALL LAW IN UKRAINE. JOINING ME NOW, ANTHONY TATA. GENERAL, IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU THIS MORNING. YOUR REACTION TO WHAT IS TAKING PLACE AS WE SPEAK? >> THANK YOU, MARIA.

GREAT TO BE WITH YOU. THIS IS NO PEACE KEEPING OPERATION, THAT'S FOR SURE. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE EXPECTING A COUPLE OF PROVINCES AND THEN TO HOLD WHAT THEY GOT. KIND OF LIKE WHAT THEY DID IN CRIMEA. THIS IS A FULL SCALE JOINT OPERATION.

THEY'VE HAD STRIKES THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT FOR AIRBORNE AND AIR ASSAULT TROOPS. THE NAVY IS IN THE BLACK SARKS MOVING ALONG THE COAST -- BLACK SEA, MOVING ALONG THE COAST THERE. THEY HAVE PARATROOPERS AND SPECIAL FORCES SEIZING KEY PORTS AND AIRPORTS. AND THEY'VE HAD MISSILES, AIR STRIKES CUT OFF COMMUNICATIONS SO THAT THE UKRAINIAN MILITARY CAN'T SHOOT, MOVE AND COMMUNICATE, CYBER ATTACKS TO NEUTRALIZE THE COMMAND AND CONTROL AND WHAT I EXPECT THROUGHOUT THE DAY IS THEY'LL CONTINUE THIS VERY PRECISE ASSAULT THAT THEY'RE DOING AND CONSOLIDATE THEIR GAINS AND CONTINUE TO MOVE TO THEIR NEXT OBJECTIVES.MARIA: THIS WAS A PERFECTLY PEACEFUL SITUATION UNTIL VLADIMIR PUTIN DECIDED TO SEND TROOPS AND TANKS IN BECAUSE HE WANTED MORE TERRITORY.

NOW, UKRAINE IS TELLING CITIZENS GET UP AND FIGHT BACK IF YOU HAVE A WEAPON AND ARE ABLE TO HE DEFEND THIS COUNTRY DO, SO. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE. >> I THINK HE'S DOING WHAT HE CAN. THEY'RE SEVERELY OVER-MATCHED BY RUSSIAN FORCES AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS AS MUCH FROM A DEMONSTRATION TO THE WORLD OF RUSSIAN MILITARY STRENGTH AND SO THIS IS PUTIN'S GAMBIT HERE. HE'S ABSOLUTELY DEPLOYING HIS MOST ELITE TROOPS AND FROM A UKRAINIAN SIDE, I'LL TELL YOU, MARIA, I'VE HAD A VERY DEAR FRIEND, MARK PAZLOWSKI WAS KILLED IN 2014 AFTER THE MAIDEN PROTESTS, WEST POINT CLASSMATE, AND HE HE WENT TO FIGHT FOR UKRAINE SO UKRAINIANS ARE PASSIONATE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GOING TO STAND UP BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S -- THE OVER-MATCH IS PRETTY SEVERE HERE AND THE UKRAINIANS WILL GET A VOTE INTO THE SPEED OF THE RUSSIAN PROGRESS.

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SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT. BUT RIGHT NOW, WITH CRUISE MISSILES AND JETS AND AIR SUPREMACY ESTABLISHED BY THE RUSSIAN AIR FORCE, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS A VERY WELL-DETAILED PLAN THAT IS BEING EXECUTED AND YOU KNOW, MARIA, THIS -- THE TROOPS BEGAN MOVING, THE RUSSIAN TROOPS BEGAN MOVING IN OCTOBER. WHAT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER? IT WAS SORT OF THE END OF OUR AFGHANISTAN DEBACLE AND THAT INCOMPETENCE HAS RESONATED AROUND THE WORLD. WE LEFT NATO OUT TO DRY AND PUTIN'S SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, NATO'S FRACTURED.

AMERICA LEFT ALL THEIR NATO ALLIES TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES IN AFGHANISTAN. THEY'RE NOT VERY UNIFIED. THERE'S NO LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON AND RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS PUTIN DOING A SCENE THAT HE'S THREADING THE NEEDLE AND QUITE FRANKLY THE AFGHANISTAN FAILURE IS RESONATING AROUND THE GLOBE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING -- HE MOVED THE TROOPS IN OCTOBER AND THAT WAS A DECISIVE POINT FOR PUTIN AND I WISH IT WERE NOT THE CASE BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.MARIA: YEAH. IT'S A VERY GOOD POINT TO MAKE THAT, THE TROOPS STARTED MOVING IN OCTOBER ON THE HEELS OF WHAT WE SAW IN AFGHANISTAN.

BIDEN WANT A -- WANTED A GOOD PR MOMENT ON SEPTEMBER 11th AND AS A RESULT BOTCHED THE WITHDRAWAL. I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON WHAT IS THINKING AT THIS POINT. WE KNOW THEY'RE SENDING JETS IN THE TAIWANESE AIR SPACE, AS YOU MENTIONED, AFTER THE AFGHANISTAN BOTCHED WITHDRAWAL. WHAT DOES THE CCP TAKE AWAY FROM THIS? >> WELL, MARIA, THEY SAW THE SAME THING THAT PUTIN SAW.

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XI SAW THE SAME THING THAT PUTIN SAW IN AFGHANISTAN, WEAK LEADERSHIP, NO ACCOUNTABILITY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND FRACTURED NATO. AND SO A FRACTURED WESTERN WORLD QUITE FRANKLY AND EVERY SECURITY ARRANGEMENT NEEDS AN ALPHA NEEDS TO LEAD IT. WE HAVE XI AND PUTIN THAT HAVE R SHARPENED THEIR KNIVES. TAIWAN IS A AN ISLAND NATION. OBVIOUSLY, XI CAN'T MASS TROOPS ON THE BORDER.

HE'S GOT A BIG NAVY, HE'S GOT A BIG AIR FORCE AND SO TACTICALLY IT WOULD BE A LOT DIFFERENT AND A IT'S A LOT HARDER FIGHT FOR US TO RESPOND TO AS WELL, SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO DO SO. BUT THE STRATEGIC IMPLICATIONS OF AFGHANISTAN CANNOT BE OVERSTATED AS WE WATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GLOBAL STAGE. MARIA: THAT'S RIGHT. NOW, WE HAVE HEARD FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN THIS MORNING. HE IS CONSISTENT P DEMING PEW -- CONDEMNING PUTIN'S MOVE, HE'S CALLING IT AN UNPROVOKED, UNJUSTIFIED ATTACK BY RUSSIAN MILITARY FORCES.

HE IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE NEW SANCTIONS THAT THE U.S. AND. >> Al: LIES ARE GOING TO BE IMPOSE -- THAT THE ALLIES WILL BE IMPOSING ON . WHAT DO YOU EXPECT OUT OF THE U.

S. IN THE WAY OF SANCTIONS AND HAS ANYTHING THAT JOE BIDEN HAS DONE BEEN SEEN AS A DETERRENT HERE? >> NO, HE'S NOT A FACTOR TO PUTIN OR THE WEST IS NOT A FACTOR AS I MENTIONED.THERE'S THIS COMPLETE DISORGANIZATION. A LOT OF IT IS THE DISINFORMATION THAT'S BEEN EMBRACED BY THE PROGRESSIVES HERE IN AMERICA THAT A THEY'VE USED TO SEW DISCORD AND DISCONTENT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR FOUR YEARS AND THEY CONTINUE THIS NARRATIVE AND IT'S JUST SURPRISING TO ME THAT PEOPLE CONTINUE TO HANG ONTO THIS NARRATIVE, YOU KNOW, PROPAGATED A LOT BY THE FAKE DOSSIER BY AND THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY THERE.

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THAT'S THE KEY THAT THE ARE SYNCOPANTS FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION. UNTIL WE GET A RECKONING, AN ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE EMBRACING OF THIS FALSE NARRATIVE ABOUT , IT'S -- WE'RE IN A WORLD OF HURT RIGHT NOW AND MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE HAVE MISSILE AND AIR DEFENSE IN THE BALTIC REGION. YOU'VE GOT POLAND AND THE -- TO THE SOUTH ROMANIA. THEY'RE NATO NATIONS ALL AROUND THAT AND ARTICLE 5 IS A KEY THING HERE AND I DO COMMEND THE ADMINISTRATION FOR SENDING A COUPLE OF BRIGADES OF PARATROOPERS, AIR ASSAULT TROOPS TO POLAND AS A DETERRENT. WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT FROM HERE.

MARIA: REAL QUICK BEFORE YOU GO, WHEN WILL THIS END PEOPLE ARE ASKING.IS THE POINT HERE FOR VLADIMIR PUTIN TO RECREATE THE SOVIET UNION AND DO YOU THINK AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME WITH THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES ARE TRYING TO DO, HUNT DOWN THE LEADERSHIP OF UKRAINE, KILL THE LEADERSHIP AND ARREST ANYBODY IN UKRAINIAN LEADERSHIP AND TAKE OVER GOVERNMENT? IS THAT PUTIN'S MOVE HERE? >> YEAH, I THINKS HE'S GOING TO BE RUTHLESS, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.THIS IS HIS MOMENT.

THIS IS HIS OPPORTUNITY. AND SO THE BIG KEY IS, IT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TO ATTACK UKRAINE AND THEN WANT A DIFFERENT STORY TO ATTACK NATO. MARIA: OKAY. YES, OF COURSE. YEAH.

AND U.S. HAS TROOPS ALONG THE BORDER OF NATO COUNTRIES. GENERAL, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHTS ON THIS. WE SO APPRECIATE YOUR.

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